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but where does israel extend the hand of diplomacy, where does israel stand firm? also, as woe are focusing on iran, should isisrael -- should israel be careful not to take its eye off of hamas? >> well, israel extends its hand in diploam ausall the time. we did this time. we are very receptive and very attentive to the wishes and words of secretary clinton. we cooperated with the egyptian president and we gave peace a chance. we also are doing all we can to make the life of our palestinian neighbors better, both in quality and in the standard of living in the west bank. i think that the one thing that the hamas should watch and especially the people in gaza who are held hostage in this world's largest prison by hamas should watch the way their brethren in the west bank live in peace and safety and security and in prosperity. i think most palestinians really want that. at the same time, because hamas is indeed a proxy of iran, we're not taking our eyes off the ball, neither of hamas, nor of iran. and in a way, what you saw over the last few days was also a demonstr
but where does israel extend the hand of diplomacy, where does israel stand firm? also, as woe are focusing on iran, should isisrael -- should israel be careful not to take its eye off of hamas? >> well, israel extends its hand in diploam ausall the time. we did this time. we are very receptive and very attentive to the wishes and words of secretary clinton. we cooperated with the egyptian president and we gave peace a chance. we also are doing all we can to make the life of our...
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and morsi. two pragmatists trying to find a way to mediate this immediate conflict. you see it against the backdrop of an islamist backdrop of turkey and the riots in jordan that will cause increasing problems. you have that changing environment which you know more about. the arabs need something different. the governments need to be more responsive to their people. it's an opening for a different relationship. no american president is going to criticize, i would argue, israel's launching of this war. it is an opening for our relationship with
how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in...
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for this reason i say that israel is a terrorist state and its acts are terrorist acts. so, we had that face-off at the state department, jim, and there was more of it. we only showed about a third of that actual exchange. was the reporter right to be pushing her in that way? >> that's certainly a new ap. he was expressing the opinion. look the state department's in a hard spot here, turkey is an n.a.t.o. ally and i don't agree that israel is a terrorist state and i'm sure hillary clinton and the state department don't either, but the way the camera makes it look, she's sort of on the-- nuland is on the defensive and she's got her job to do with 150 state world capitals watching. it was a little bit of an ambush on the state department. >> jon: pretty amazing statement, i think, from t theithe turkish minister, how did they react. >> almost no. i'm going to wait for the article that says that turkey has just disqualified itself as an intermediater, as a mediator in this conflict. i didn't see that statement. i didn't see that story. it's really amazing the way turkey is-
for this reason i say that israel is a terrorist state and its acts are terrorist acts. so, we had that face-off at the state department, jim, and there was more of it. we only showed about a third of that actual exchange. was the reporter right to be pushing her in that way? >> that's certainly a new ap. he was expressing the opinion. look the state department's in a hard spot here, turkey is an n.a.t.o. ally and i don't agree that israel is a terrorist state and i'm sure hillary clinton...
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israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire but israel says it's going to maintain its border restriction even though they'll talk about it but not lift the naval block aid and hamas says they'll arm gaza with rockets that could be fired into israel. how stable is this situation? >> i think there's a peace deal that's foreseeable. it's not difficult to to foresee. the deal is israel stop with the assassinations and hamas stop firing the rockets. the second part is israel would do something in terms of the border crossing, get activity back to normal which is something the palestinians dearly want as well as to have a sense that hamas would stop smuggling of weapons coming from syria. that's why the naval blockade is in place. they have the possibility of the united states coming in. you asked about u.s. pressure but also the u.s. playing a greater role. if the obama administration says let's let them settle it themself but they said we'll play a more aggressive role. that's the challenge for the obama administration in the second term where as in the first term they wanted a light footpri
israel and hamas agreeing to a cease-fire but israel says it's going to maintain its border restriction even though they'll talk about it but not lift the naval block aid and hamas says they'll arm gaza with rockets that could be fired into israel. how stable is this situation? >> i think there's a peace deal that's foreseeable. it's not difficult to to foresee. the deal is israel stop with the assassinations and hamas stop firing the rockets. the second part is israel would do something...
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thanks to the cease fire agreement israel isn't using the naval blockade againgaza. fisherman were able to travel out some 6 miles to sea which is twice the previous limit and we expect that later this week there will be some indirect talks taking place to implement other parts of this truce. the truce still very fragile but still in place. >>> david lee miller live in jerusalem. back here at home tomorrow congress returns to work. they are getting back to work. >> congratulations. they needed a week off. >> in 37 days left until the fiscal cliff is official unless congress can do something about it. >> hard to know if there is any common ground at this hour. both sides said they are willing to compromise but nothing brought the two extremes together. president obama dug in his heels saying he still saying any one making 200,000 or more or a family of 250,000 dollars or more their taxes must go up from 35 percent to 39 percent. republicans say that's a nonstarter for them. they don't believe in this economic climate that can happen. >> they have said we can get the s
thanks to the cease fire agreement israel isn't using the naval blockade againgaza. fisherman were able to travel out some 6 miles to sea which is twice the previous limit and we expect that later this week there will be some indirect talks taking place to implement other parts of this truce. the truce still very fragile but still in place. >>> david lee miller live in jerusalem. back here at home tomorrow congress returns to work. they are getting back to work. >>...
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made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world, including in iran, across the region. >> that frames it. we'll hear more from you in the roundtable. >>> now let me turn to carl levin, chairman of course of the armed services committee in the senate. senator, to egypt. how concerned are you? is morsi a partner of the united states, or a problem? >> yes. >> he's both? >> some of both, yeah. but even though there's great concern, i think we have to be very cautious. we don't obviously want to see a democratically elected autocrat take the place of an undemocratically elected dictator. on the other hand
made israel feel moderate and the arabs feel realistic. the second piece of good news is that egypt, even under the muslim brotherhood, has an interest in having stability. that's very important. the bad news is the islamists are in control. in the palestinian areas with hamas and certainly in control in egypt. and there's going to be no peace as long as they are there in control, and u.s. policy has got to be a long, gradual process of trying to build up the non-islamists in the arab world,...
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israel says it will destroy any weapons headed to gaza. the paper says the cargo ship might contain long range ballistic missiles. workers in gaza are rebuilding smuggling tunnels destroyed by air strikes. the iran president called the prime minister to graduate >> congratulate him on the victory. >>> a islamic religious leader says it's the duty of gazaians to support the cease-fire agreement says it's the duty of all residents and not to do so is, in his words a sin. >> david lee miller live in jerusalem thank you. >>> the state department is calling for calm after mohammed morsi's power grab as opposition groups gather to ban the sweeping powers, the white house is quiet. congressman john garamandy joins us now. >> good to be with you. >> your colleagues on the senate side, some have been vocal, senator lindsey graham comes to mind about the issue of funding for egypt. that is something we need to highlight for them in hopes of coercing president morsi to scale back his decree? >> i can be sure president morsi is aware of the american i
israel says it will destroy any weapons headed to gaza. the paper says the cargo ship might contain long range ballistic missiles. workers in gaza are rebuilding smuggling tunnels destroyed by air strikes. the iran president called the prime minister to graduate >> congratulate him on the victory. >>> a islamic religious leader says it's the duty of gazaians to support the cease-fire agreement says it's the duty of all residents and not to do so is, in his words a sin. >>...
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new developments threatening to unravel the cease-fire between israel and hamas with israel reporting spotting an iranian ship loaded with rockets for gaza which would end the cease-fire deal. david lee has more from jerusalem. >> it looks like new iranian weapons could be headed to gaza for use by militants. >> according to the sunday times of london israeli spy satellites spotted cargo being loaded in iran putting rockets on the ship that will rockets in gaza fired at jerusalem. the israel military is believed to have destroyed stockpiles in gaza during the conflict. the report cites sources saying the weapon shipment will be escorted by an iranian war ship. israel says it will destroy any weapons headed to gaza. the paper also says that cargo ship could contain longer range ballistic missile to be deployed in sudan against israel. hamas says with the help of iran they will rebuild the arsenal. workers in gaza are rebuilding smuggling tunnels, two-thirds of which were destroyed by israeli airstrikes. according to iran's official news agency, iran's president calls hamas' prime minis
new developments threatening to unravel the cease-fire between israel and hamas with israel reporting spotting an iranian ship loaded with rockets for gaza which would end the cease-fire deal. david lee has more from jerusalem. >> it looks like new iranian weapons could be headed to gaza for use by militants. >> according to the sunday times of london israeli spy satellites spotted cargo being loaded in iran putting rockets on the ship that will rockets in gaza fired at jerusalem....
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it shows the truth and that they were not beaten by israel. the fact that they were able to fire rockets into israel even after absorbing 1500 air strikes to them is a success. their bar for success is much lower than israel's bar for success but they believe in their success and that complicates issues not only vis-a-vis israel but internally with the west bank. hamas has shown that it doesn't pay and violence does. >> martin, do leaders want a two state solution or do they refuse to recognize israel's right to exist? >> it's a no and a yes. they do not recognize the right to exist. it's in the hamas charter. it's founded on the belief that israel has no right to exist. that complicates any future peace negotiations and so, be yes, tla complicates it. and it means that hamas will never recognize israel's right to exist. it's possible that they can come to a long-term agreement which allows them to live quietly side by side. that would be the maximum that could come out of these negotiations. >> talk about a stumbling block right out of the st
it shows the truth and that they were not beaten by israel. the fact that they were able to fire rockets into israel even after absorbing 1500 air strikes to them is a success. their bar for success is much lower than israel's bar for success but they believe in their success and that complicates issues not only vis-a-vis israel but internally with the west bank. hamas has shown that it doesn't pay and violence does. >> martin, do leaders want a two state solution or do they refuse to...